new theories about Nero

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  1. darkslayer13 Existence Without Light

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    interesting, but how would Vergil have ended up in the Chimera Seed?

    and i heard somewhere that the demon that attacked Nero was an Assault
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    Maybe it was the Assault-type?
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    Vergil possessing an Assault wouldn't make any less sense that him possessing a Chimera. and no matter what it was there would still need to be an explanation for how Vergil got in it.

    my theory for how Vergil's soul ended up in the Assault is that it came in contact with a piece of Nelo's armor that contained Vergil's soul and then Vergil was able to possess the Assault long enough to force it to attack Nero so Vergil's soul could move into Nero's Arm.

    and that leaves only two questions.

    1. how did Nelo's armor (and Yamato) end up in Fortuna.
    2. what does Vergil plan to do now.
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    Actually, the demon that attacked Nero is unknown as it was never specified in the game's manual, which contains the report of the event, though the DMC4 novel stated it was an Assault but the novel's not canon.

    Now to your answer question, it doesn't matter how Vergil's soul ended up in a Chimera Seed because you can assume that the same method other Devils take to possess a Seed, his soul must've ended up using as well. But to point out something, you must keep in mind the nature of Nelo Angelo's armor. In DMC4, The Blanco Angelos were pieces of demon- possessed armor with a piece of Nelo Angelo's armor being the bond between the armor and the demon's soul. This is a referrence to the fact that Nelo Angelo's body is nothing more than a corpse that was meant to holster a soul. With that said, Vergil's soul escaped from the corpse, so it no longer had any soul within it. Same goes for its pieces. That's why none of the Angelos look like Vergil or Nelo Angelo (outside of being armored), there's no part of Vergil within them. With that said, the pieces of Nelo Angelo's armor have little, if any, effect on whoever touches them or becomes bonded with them.

    As for the other questions:
    1. The Order must have found his pieces and Yamato in Mallet Island during a mission. They are Devil Hunters after all, so of course they had to end up there at some point considering what happened.

    2. We don't know, it's hard to tell whether he still has a will of his own or he's completely in control of Nero. Though it can be assumed that, because of Nero's story, Vergil had willingly gave up control of his soul to Nero in exchange for Nero gradually giving him power (or at least that was, seemingly, his plan).
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    Sooo Nero sold his soul to the devil?

    XD
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    Rather, the "Devil" sold his soul to Nero.
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    1.if the DMC4 novel is the only place that says that it was an assault then i guess we can ignore that part since this thread is focused on a different theory than the one the novel supports

    2.when has anything anywhere said that Demons regularly possess Chimera Seeds. the Chimera Seeds are Echidna's children not normal seeds possessed by demons.

    3. we don't know where Vergil's soul is. at no point in any of the games has anything been said about what happened to Vergil after DMC1. the idea of his soul remaining in one of the pieces of Nelo's armor makes sense, does not contradict any canon information and fit's my theory about how Vergil's soul would end up in Nero.

    4. the Bianco Angelo's don't look like Vergil because the armor they possess is the normal armor used by the Order which has probably looked exactly the same since long before Vergil was born.
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    nah he is devil's son he doesn't need to sell his soul he just got his arm and super human abilites from the blood of "Sparda" which is the most annoying part in the whole DMC story that he has to be either a son of sparda which is impossible for that his mother has to be someone who can live long like sparda or he's vergil's son which is also impossible only thing which they can fit nero in is by making him a "Descendant of sparda who was born in a test-tube"
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    1. Of course.
    2. Check her boss file: "Echidna: Master of a forest home to many demonic mysteries, Echidna scatters its seeds to act as hosts for further demons."
    3. If we don't know where Vergil's soul is then why is it in Nero's arm?
    4. Hmmm.... Nero's arm contains Vergil's soul => Devil Trigger share similarities with Nelo Angelo and Vergil. Bianco Angelos with pieces of Nelo Angelo's armor => No sign of Vergil's soul in them... at all.
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    2.okay than I guess the vergil was in a chimera seed idea does make sense
    3.vergil's soul in nero's arm is a theory. there is no canon information about what happened to vergil's soul after dmc1
    4.my theory is that vergil's soul stayed in one piece of the armor not all of them.
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    2. Glad you see my point.
    3. Now this isn't straightforward but its kind of hard to deny that the voice Nero's talking about is Vergil's.
    4. But if his soul is in one piece of armor then it has to be in the others, otherwise you're going to have to explain how his soul was just stuck in one.
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    We don't really know how demonic armor designed to imprison and control a soul would work so there is no way to know what would happen if you break it with a soul inside, but if you really think I need to explain than I guess that I will have to think of something:

    Maybe Vergil's soul was only stored in one part of the armor. It would make sense for living armor to have some form of core to hold the soul. It would be odd if it didn't have something like that.
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    Seemingly, it was some kind of corpse, but either way that's pretty good explanation. Nice theory.
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    You know what I hope isn't Capcom's final solution to Nero's origin:


    [IMG] = [IMG] Nero ending up being the reincarnation of Sparda.

    But there's no wat Cpacom would do fans like that...right?:ermm:
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    I was listening to "Yamato Awakens" and it got me thinking,

    That maybe the Devil Bringer and Yamato are halves of Vergil's Soul and Yamato only awakened and fixed not because of Nero but because it(Vergils soul) wanted to reunite with the other half so Vergil briefly possessed Nero tin order to complete himself .

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